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1000 homes got raided recently in search of those people using IPTV. I know that thread was laughed at and would have thought going into certain estates and raiding 1000 homes there would be a good chance 100 would have IPTV. But I use a VPN anyway, just put it down as a cost.

No, that includes a good VPN as well. I've tried a few and some are so slow I end up turning it off. EDIT. Just realised who I've responded to. You should know how much I pay.

4K streams. Anyone watch on a 4K firestick and is the picture in UHD/4K. I know there is a feed labeled 4K. On the subject of cost and paying Sky/EPL. I understand it's £120 a year for IPTV & VPN. As such this would be my limit to pay for every EPL game.

I watch the occasional ECL games and the odd untelevised games. With Albion I go to most away matches but the odd 'long distant' match is a stay at home. I pay a lot for Sky & Amazon and blowed if I'm spending more for BT.