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Well yes, but it has to take that chance. On this thread people have admitted having no idea who the labour shadow cabinet are the day after their conference has ended. It's tough, I know, but they need to be properly out there getting their name known and gaining credibility.

Starmer has done well What he really needs is a visible and credible front bench to take it to the tories. Starmer would make a decent PM, but can't get there all on his own

It's possible and I think it will happen. When we get to the white heat of a campaign, enough Labour members will read between the lines of what Starmer is saying, think about the alternatives, hold their noses and go and campaign for him. Of course many never will. But like with Blair before...

A recent study shows that 0.34 people per year move from Labour to Conservative. This has been consistent over a long period of time. Priorities and outlook change as you get older I suppose. I'd sooner die than vote Tory, but maybe the intense bitterness I hold towards them and the sense...

It's a totally fair point that Labour can't win without it's footsoldiers But Labour also can't win with a socialist manifesto. Rightly or not it can't win with a leader who is as susceptible to constant attack as Corbyn was. Starmer isn't purging. Nobody is being thrown out of the party...

Just watched it all. Starmer has done enough to be listened to further Long speech. Huge doses of Blairism. Some surprising themes. Positioning himself as the adult in the room, which I suppose he is.

Blair used to get the same