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Which is the way it should be in a derby.

Yes, Veltman I think according to Radio Sussex. Whilst I agree completely that the Palace player should have been sent off, there hasn’t been much mention on here of that foul until you brought it up. There was also a thread on here not so long ago praising the ‘dark arts’ of Veltman, closely...

Fabinho’s expression was basically a signed confession. You have to admire his honesty.

A bit antagonistic and a sign of what refs have to put up with. Warren and Johnny thought it was a definite yellow if that helps at all. I haven’t seen it yet but I have seen refs slated for being over officious with cards and spoiling the flow of the game.