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  1. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    The religious leaders all seem to have interesting things to say. Some extreme opinions/doctrines that don't jibe with everyone of course. It's a bit of a shame that they aren't 'leaders' enough to influence many of their followers to desist from fighting and / or killing. The Dalai Lama is a...
  2. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    While man using science is not able to examine the soul / spirit, it's got no place with religion. Science deals with the solid existence of bodies, objects, things made of atoms and compounds. The soul is not a solid item. While science cannot create any living thing, or make one egg or sperm...
  3. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    Religion asks people (you, us, them) to believe outlandish and outrageous things that are often against the forces of nature, against instinct, human behavior, and that will cost all sorts of time and cause you grief. For myself, the more I consider perspective on the creation and my place in...
  4. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    With you on that. Basically organized religion is inherently manipulative to maintain a singular point of view and get people to group together with/behind it. Then you see 'leaders' in every religion, and they always relish power - which holds with manipulative inclinations. If there's one...
  5. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    The Stephen Fry speech was very interesting I found, and the other links found after that are, as well. Personally I find the arguments against religions, dogma and doctrine, to have much more basis in fact and sense. When looking at individual religions, scrutinizing them and taking in the...
  6. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    You seem to be strangely frustrated with it all ??? Look, nobody is asking or trying to get YOU to believe or disbelieve anything! There are opinions on why some people do believe, and how - and there are those who reason as to why they don't believe. I don't see anyone asking you to lean to...
  7. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    I didn't miss your point, but I believe you are stumbling roughshod through my points for the sake of making it. Your indications that Doctors "should only prescribe where proven" medications have been recommended, are the way things are. Why don't they ever advocate regular across the counter...
  8. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    What I've been pointing out, is that when you go to a local social doctor's surgery, they aren't telling you to use ANY herbal cures, they will prescribe engineered drugs that are only available through a prescription. When a herbal remedy, or available assistant non-prescription treatment may...
  9. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    Tsk, you are weird when it comes to discussion. When I said modern tech medicine companies not spending to study herbals - you refute it with a company who SOLELY STUDY NATURAL REMEDY! Then THEY are not who i am talking about, are they!! American Indians' life expectancy isn't entirely down to...
  10. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    Very few wars have been down to those causes. Money, yes. Freedom from restriction was the cause for Hitler's rise, as Germany was prevented from doing business, and having a military after WWI. People were starving, and the country was not prospering - having to watch while other nations did...
  11. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    Herbal remedies that DON'T work aren't called anything, they wouldn't be "remedies" if they didn't work! Medical companies do not put money allocations into "proving" herbal remedies! They ignore them in favour of creating 'cure-alls' when herbs can do the job better and leave you less reliant...
  12. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    If you mean the advancement of science to construct technologically superior weaponry and kill people, maybe. But often religion is the motivation that enacted the conflict in the first place. The atomic bombs on Nagasaki and Hiroshima were dropped in the cause of ending the war. To which end...
  13. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    That what you are describing is indoctrination - a form of manipulation. Any child can choose to believe or not - I don't think anyone can force a mind to believe, but they can be intent on getting them to accept. The word *force* is questionable here. Someone posted earlier that a tribe that...
  14. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    We might be at cross-purposes here, because that is what I'm suggesting. Search for knowledge is wonderful, but the NEED to know religion is not necessary. I agree that a focus on singular religious belief can hinder the mind from being open to learn.
  15. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    About? About religion, and whether there's a God?? :nono: Religion is renowned for keeping most of Mankind firmly ensconced in a 'dark age' !
  16. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    He was great at long diagonal passes with a football boot, and we never saw England play better football than under his management. Surely then, he must know about our previous lives? I mean he knows a famous spoon bender, and Tony flippin' Robbins!
  17. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    No, not necessarily. Wars can be about one deciding theirs is more right and everyone else should follow their one. Why worry so much about what the other guy wants to believe, unless he's forcing it on you? No-one can be forced to believe in a religion anyway let's face that. No amount of...
  18. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    That last bit worries me. We can revel in what we don't know alright, but as to whether it should be our goal to uncover secrets we cannot hope to fully realize - hmm, not really. A sand-buried person who can shrug it all off as down to the divine creator will be infinitely better off having...
  19. NMH

    GOD: How much do you believe in him?

    ...oh and don't listen to Glenn Hoddle when he says the disabled were bad people in a previous life. He may have been a quality England manager, but actually doesn't know either
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