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  1. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Everton 1-0? In all, we took 17 points from teams that finished top half, don't think that's too shabby tbh.
  2. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    A share of luck perhaps, but is it a "fair" share if the defence has done its job and kept a clean sheet? It's not quite the same as winning by the odd goal in five. I'll give you Newcastle, that was a bit of a burglary, but the xG for both West Ham and Wolves was around 1.5 versus 1 for us -...
  3. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    I'm not suggesting that a point a game is all we should be aiming for, I'm suggesting that it makes sense to protect the one you start with as much as is practically possible, which is not quite the same thing. And all points are not created equal - the one we started with at Wolves, for...
  4. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Out of interest, do you think were there any points gained during the season that were down to something other than luck, or any that were lost that weren't all the fault of Hughton & his tactics?
  5. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Palace at home? Palace away? Bournemouth away in the Cup? Everton 1-0 at home? Wolves 1-0 at home? Or don't those count because it wasn't 4-0 and therefore not "classy" enough for you? Fascinating, btw, that you've turned it into "lovers" and, presumably, "haters". Are you proud to be a hater?
  6. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    The game before Burnley was a win. The game after Burnley was a win, and so were two of the three games after that, including our first win at Palace for decades. Your point was?
  7. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    We didn't nearly go down. Never shorter than 9-4 and even that for only a day or two. That was mainly thanks to a pretty strong start to the season which included a win against Manchester United and a sequence of three wins in a row at one point. We were not in the relegation zone at any stage...
  8. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    Next game after Fulham - when we could easily have been 3-0 and out of sight at half time - was home versus Watford, when we battered them and had no luck at all in front of goal. xG (from 538) is Albion 2.1, Watford 0.3. Not the performance of a team that's suddenly gone VERY defensive. Game...
  9. Mtoto

    [Albion] When Did It All Go So Wrong?

    We came from behind to get a point against Newcastle, from behind to get a point at Arsenal (which might have been three) and almost kept Spurs at bay for 95 minutes. If we were "unravelling" - which is a matter of opinion anyway - then someone seems to have ravelled us back up again in time to...
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