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I get the optimism. I get the fact we have improved since 2010. I agree youth needs to be brought through. The problem is Roy Hodgeson is 66 years old. People on here comparing us to Germany of 2002-4 need to realise that it was Klinssman and Low who started that journey, both men in their 40s...

Did anyone see Klinsman's post match interview? He's not American. That is what I want from an England manager. Not spin and bullshit from a man so out of his depth he has to resort to spin and bullshit.

When has an England manager ever had a succession plan?

And you couldn't get England to the last 16, however..... Algeria USA Greece Costa Rica Colombia Switzerland Nigeria ....all managed it. For them it wasn't an 'impossible' job. They didn't have the 2nd highest paid manager at the competition though. Please, please, please have the decency and...