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No misery here. Ince has some VERY GOOD attributes. However, he lacks the attributes needed to be a decent DM. However (again), he would work well as the "next midfielder forward" in a 3, a workhorse to break up play and distribute it simply to players with more ability on the ball. Perfectly...

Not pedantic at all, there is a MASSIVE difference between A> Not rating a player, and B> HATING them. There's a huuuuuge difference. Also, your comments come across INSANELY patronising. I rate Busquets. You've clearly ignored my comments where I said which position I felt Ince could work well...

Perhaps his ball retention was slightly better last season, however it's very selective, as he's been here multiple years - I'd also like to see how they calculated it. The point is - You don't even need to be that into football to see he is NOT comfortable at all on the ball. Full stop. A lot...

Please point me towards the HATE for Rohan Ince.

A HUMUNGOUS amount of this. This should be its own thread. An English crowd loves a player tackling back after losing the ball FAR more than they appreciate said player NOT LOSING THE BALL IN THE FIRST PLACE. It's so insanely backwards. Can't get my head around it. At all.

I don't think there's much in it between the two. Crofts has a better first touch and slightly more composure though, I reckon.

yes but would he be HARD?

Which bit do you disagree with?

Plays like a drunk young Yaya Toure. That is both a massive compliment and a slight insult.

I've been saying exactly this to anyone who would listen. The 3 things he lacks are probably the 3 most vital attributes for a DM. He could be VERY good used as the next midfielder forward in a 3, a workhorse to break up play and then give it 5 yards to the DM or AM.

Strengths: Big Quick Strong Physical Weaknesses Composure Passing Positional Sense Definitely NOT a Defensive midfielder, unless he is alongside a very calm, composed, intelligent ball player.

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