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Yup, and we're just as entitled to tell them they're talking absolute bollocks, and for that to then be proved (once again, exactly the same as happened 2nd season in League one) on the pitch.

Spot on. Thank goodness no one who thinks in such basic terms runs our football club.

No it wasn't. It was a really f***ing stupid thread then, and it looks even more so now. Poyet's worked absolute MIRACLES here, even if we don't go up this season he has been the best manager we've had in decades.

Yup. Plenty of gloom and doom merchants on here, told them that Kusz, Bruno and Bridge would make a massive difference and QUELLE F*CKING SURPRISE they have. It's really, REALLY basic stuff but some people are so miserable they refuse to see logic and rational thought.

This. This is an INSANE thread full of utter bollocks.

There is a big middle ground between "happy to stay in the championship forever" and wanting it all NOW even if it means doing a Pompey. Also you conveniently ignore the fact that at least 8-10 other clubs have the same plans. It's not as simple as you make out.

This thread is embarrassing. Palace fans will be rightly laughing at it.

Well said.

Absolutely this. You HAVE to take into account your opponents. Even though Palace have only 1 point less than us, I'd be ten times more worried if we had their start, due to the quality of sides played compared to Hull and Cardiff, two very strong Championship sides.

A gazillion times this.

A billion times this.