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I'm not overstating it but on my tramping the streets in 2016, I did come across a few people who weren't aware of where their polling station was, even some who weren't certain of the day of the poll (busy with jobs/kids and tuning out of the news). I like to think a few more may have voted...

Did you canvass for Remain in the 2016 referendum like I did? It's a simple question. Spouting on messageboards is one thing, but did you put any time and effort in going out and persuading voters to stay in the EU?

So there was no referendum about Rwanda? So the parallel is nonsense, right? You accept that? A lot of people say the 2016 referendum was the will of the people besides the Tories. Immediately prior to the vote, every political party and every political leader actually. It's only since then...

Ok - answer me this. Did you bother to get off your arse and go out canvassing and door-knocking for Remain in the 2016 referendum? Because I did. You can be a Remainer and believe the extreme, anti-democratic wing of the Remain movement were incompetently responsible for walking into Dominic...

Rewriting history there, the Press fawned over May and predicted she was going to get a majority of 150. It was only when Corbyn effectively ended her career in the 2017 election that the groupthink decided she was useless. Obviously no credit could be given to Corbyn, who led the biggest rise...

I don't remember there being a referendum about Rwanda? Do you? Covering for Anderson? Where have I done that? Point to it please. I've made two or 3 references to Anderson, all attacking him. Not surprising that really, as I absolutely loathe the guy. Can you not just debate honestly, for once?

Well, my view is that opposing democratic votes by any means necessary is much more akin to what Nazis and the Radical Right do. British democracy is far from perfect but it's all we have -- and you chip away at it, destroy faith in the democratic process, by telling people their votes don't matter

It's funny how some people can't bear to have their ideas challenged, it's genuinely unsettling for them

I will credit you here for attempting to articulate a positive argument that can be factually critiqued. It makes a refreshing change from slippery, evasive one-liners. But the massive problem is your attempt at an history of the Labour Left and its attitude to the EU here is entirely...

Donkey jacket throwbacks. You only speak in Tory tabloid cliches. It's embarrassing how much political centrists borrow wholescale their language from the Right, due to an absence of any ideas of their own

The actual facts are Corbyn destroyed the Tory majority in the 2017 General Election with the biggest rise in the Labour vote since 1945. The Brexit issue was settled in the Labour Party during that campaign, which is a customs union, the softest possible Brexit - everyone was happy, Labour led...

The Remainiac obsession with using the courts to defy the will of the people, which all politicians pledged to respect in 2016, was the main reason why the 2019 General Election became the second referendum on Brexit, instead of concentrating on the real issues facing Britain — collapsing public...

I voted Remain in 2016. But democracy means the will of the people couldn’t be subverted by silly legal ruses otherwise that would provoke a huge political backlash from the people. And that’s what we got in 2019

It was too late when the referendum was lost in 2016. But a bunch of self absorbed clowns had to wave their little EU flags for the following 3 years and condemn us to Boris Johnson

This totally nails it

Post truth, another meaningless buzzzword centrist cliche to avoid actually engaging in debate, doesn’t bother me but you raised Corbyn’s record on Europe but just don’t want to respond to any of the rebuttals

People of your centre-leftish persuasion flayed Corbyn for giving an honest answer to his assessment of the EU, which was 7 out of 10. A pretty reasonable score in fact, I'd take that for our midfielders most days. They said he should have said 10 out of 10 to persuade voters to oppose Brexit...

Another person who thinks it's fine to ignore the fact that every single UK political leader pledged to carry out the results of the referendum immediately prior to the vote. And we wonder why so many people have so little faith in our political system and politicians more generally?

Good lord, that's exactly the point I was making - "as usual" not grasped

But there's basic facts you can't dispute. He campaigned for Remain in the referendum, fact. He argued for reform of the EU (the Remain and Reform position) because unlike all those EU flag-shaggers, he didn't believe the EU was perfect, which about 90% of the British people also believe. Prior...