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That would be very foolhardy. Mind you Germany sell them too many BMWs and France too many bottles of wine for them to lift a finger to help Ukraine.

Clearly.

Not true. There was a Singapore airliner and a Quantas 747 in the same airspace at the same time. The Ukraine govt. had said it was safe at 32k feet.

What "truth"? You have pointed out that no one has definitively proved who fired the fatal missile and then made a mental leap from that "truth" to a wild speculation about pissed up Ukrainian soldiers shooting down a civilian aircraft packed with Dutch holidaymakers and AIDS researchers in...

That scenario is highly unlikely. It is far more likely that rebels armed with soviet anti aircraft missiles fired on what they thought was a government aircraft. They had already downed 2 military aircraft that week and a helicopter or two before then. The fact MH17 was at 33,000 feet makes it...

The Porrige and the French are old friends. Judging by the amount of naff saltyre bumper stickers with "ecosse" stamped across them this vote is not so unlikely. Alternatively this might be a reference by the Haggis munchers to the numerous acts of treachery between the "auld alliance" against...

Ha ha ha. Bloody hell fella. What a clown.

Newsnight had a very good appraisal of this. I wasn't aware that three other planes had been shot down there in the past week and that Aeroflot have been routing their flights around rather than over eastern Ukraine for the last few days. Whoever did t the Russians have clearly been given heads...

Jesus. Sorry o hear that.