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I don't see ANY difference! A cyclist putting himself (or herself) in a position to be killed is a prick and should know better. A car driver putting himself (or herself) in a position to kill other people is a prick and should know better. Sorry if common sense and logic is getting in the...

I'm convinced you're deluded. Yes, yay you...

You've just farted and followed through on your own argument there. Fatally means 'killed'..... doesn't it? I think we should just merge this with the pointless argument thread. I can't be arsed any more.

Obviously I'm incredibly stupid. So a cyclist who jumps a red light and gets hit by a car going through a green light can only get hurt, but never killed. That's Superman shit, that is.... ???

Cyclists going through red lights can get flattened by cars going about their normal business driving through a green light... That's all I'm saying. I used to race (at a lower level, granted) and cycled 200+ miles a week in training. If you ride like a dick, don't complain if a car hits you...

I don't think someone actually makes a conscious decision and thinks "hmmm... answer this text - or mow down a pedestrian?.... Well, this text is really important so I'll run the f*cker over..." No excuses for that person though. Absolutely granted. What he/she was trying to get across is that...