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along the same sort of lines, I dont know why they dont fast track players who have had to retire early to the elite refs list.

My mistake, I tend to blank out Arsenal winning things. Thats another option, I just think with the amounts of money spent I want to be entertained rather than a game ruined after 5 minutes.

As someone else pointed out, unless its violent conduct or deliberate hand ball didnt scholes bring down robert Lee in the last minute of a game they were winning 1-0, think they won the league by a couple of points

I would do away with red cards for a goal scoring opportunity if it results in a pen and a goal, ruins the game completely. Agree with Sim about only captains talking the the ref, should be allowed to book anyone who talks to the ref who isnt.