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  1. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Perhaps some of these are needed in the UK? He's a brave man: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29279879 A Muslim academic has opened a gay-friendly mosque in South Africa, despite receiving death threats and fierce criticism from parts of the local Muslim community. Women will be allowed...
  2. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    In the same way that non-muslim women in the UK are not still bound by victorian social conventions, for example. By standing up for themselves, by showing that some of the things that they are compelled to do by controlling husbands/institutions/whatever, are not how they want to live. The only...
  3. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    I don't disagree that it is a symbol of subjugation. At the end of the day it is a matter of personal choice (clearly those women on that plane had a choice), though. Instead of banning the wearing in the UK, because some muslim women will still want to wear them, steps have to be put in place...
  4. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Indeed. Loads of burkha wearing muslims here and it is not viewed as an issue. As long as people stick within the laws of a particular country, they can do as they please as far as I am concerned. It's a free country, and all that.
  5. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    United Kingdom law. The issue is not the existence of these courts, but whether they contravene UK law - ie there is nothing wrong with them as long as the participants are willing and they do not break the law of the land. Re your point where participants are not willing, then steps must be...
  6. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    The Muslim councils in Britain have all condemned IS. Some have issued a fatwa against them. The burning of IS flags as part of their version of Ice Bucket Challenge has taken off on the internet and even Abu Qatada has condemned what they are doing! I have no doubt that there are Muslims...
  7. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Stats are great, aren't they! The muslim population of Britain in 1961 was 55,000 and 251,000 in 1971, which is, by my calculations, an annual growth rate of 16.394%. If we extrapolate that out to 2014, there should now be 199,808,856 muslims living in Britain by the end of 2014. That is quite...
  8. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    There were many people who were "sure" that the black population of SA would rise up on the night Mandela died to slaughter the white population. We are still waiting. My views are invalid as I live "15000" miles away. All I will say is that, from afar, I am detecting the start of the same sort...
  9. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Righto.
  10. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    0.0166% by my rudimentary maths - 500 out of 3m, some of whom have returned already as it was not quite what they expected it to be, or so I read. So I will give you that. But still not something that would unduly concern me. There are mosques in every town in this part of South Africa by the...
  11. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Yup, Pretoria. There is another one local to here that appears from the outside to be similar, except they seem to be very interested in young people and try to wriggle their way into schools.
  12. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    I wouldn't be worrying if I lived in the UK either. These valid reasons that many seem to cite as cause for concern, appear to me to be totally overblown and out of proportion. I would imagine that 99.9999% of the Muslim population of Britain want to just get on with their lives without pushing...
  13. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    They have installed software that tracks everything he does on his PC's etc. And he let them do it and does not question it. Do they physically follow him? No. But if anyone in the church suspects anyone else of doing something they shouldn't, then it gets reported to the church leaders. It's...
  14. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    I am not really going to worry about either, to be honest. I am certainly not going to worry about some perceived Islamification of Britain based upon some spurious statistics quoted by the OP.
  15. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Not yet. But who knows what the future holds? I am just using it as an example of how some people of any faith will do anything to serve their "God".
  16. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    Quite. My brother-in-law is a member of a church here that believes the book of Genesis word for word and you cannot have a sensible discussion about it with him. Blind faith, based upon what someone at his church tells him to believe. I have often asked him "if your church leader tells you to...
  17. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    The muslim population of Britain grew by 500% between 1961 and 1971. Extrapolate those figures to find out what the Muslim population of Britain should be now.
  18. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    From WikiLeaks: The 2001 UK census showed a population of 1.6 million Muslims. In April 2008, the Home Secretary Jacqui Smith announced that HMG estimated the Muslim population at 2 million or 3.3% of the UK population. This represented an increase of 400,000 in seven years. The 1951 census...
  19. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    http://blogs.channel4.com/factcheck/factcheck-will-britain-have-a-muslim-majority-by-2050/13690
  20. KZNSeagull

    The Islamic Future of Britain

    According to census data, 3% of the population in Britain in 2001 was Muslim. In 2011, it was 4.8%. Re-extrapolate from those figures and see what you get in 2050 - I can't be arsed.
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