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Sorry I wasn't suggesting judging how good teachers are by tests. I think the current way of judging schools by numbers passing is wrong and that teachers that can get a "poor" student to achieve an average grade is a lot better and probably harder than get a "gifted" child a good grade. In fact...

True, my wife is facing a similar thing with being a nurse. Also as long as its replaced with some way to reward good teachers then it can only be a benefit to everyone except the poor teachers. I do understand where they are coming from but do think its strange that only 1 union was on strike.

I'm not sure about automatic pay increments based on time because it feels like you're not necessarily rewarding good workers however I do feel all public sector workers should get an inflationary pay rise every year regardless as otherwise they're effectively getting a pay cut.

I don't expect kids to be able to read at 4, especially not all kids, I was responding to a previous poster that said they should.

yes i agree. Yes i do think most kids should know the alphabet and at least be able to write their name, but i don't class that as being able to read and write though.

well done. what level of reading though are we talking about? a few words? whole sentences? whole books? I don't disagree that the parents need to take some responsibility but you can't expect all kids to be at that level at 4

It depends on what you class as reading and writing i suppose and some 4 year olds will be able to but there will be others that this is too much for at 4 Edit: i also know of parents that have been told off for not teaching their children the right way to read

you want 4 year olds to be able to read and write when they start school???

Thats exactly what i was thinking. I'm starting to wonder why i'm a scientist. :)