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  1. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    Even if in the very, very, very unlikely scenario it meant stopping a Corbyn/McDonnell Government taking office!?! As we are sharing voting intentions and reasons .. and assuming Corbyn remains unelectable I will wait until nearer the time and assess who is most likely to deliver the outcome I...
  2. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    Obviously, they have no chance at the General election but they do have the opportunity and desire to slow/thwart the process in the Lords. 'There is a smell of defeatism in the air, a widespread view that the people have spoken and that we must respect them and accept their verdict. What...
  3. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    If you really think it's sensible or good for a supposed mainstram 'progrssive' party to do all it can to thwart the democratic choice of the majority then I am afaid you have little understanding of the forces their actions (if succesful) could unleash. The EU Chief negotiator has been warmly...
  4. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    Nothing like the Lib Dem's in relation to accepting the democratic majority wishes. Of course they can argue their case and they can be rightly pilloried for adopting an undemocratic stance for purely party survival/advantage reasons.
  5. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    For all the broken promises all parties make it would be churlish not to give some credit to them when they (for whatever reason) deliver on what they promise. More importantly, at least they still seem to understand how democracy works.
  6. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    I know, after giving the people a referendum and promising to follow the majorities wishes they appear to keep their promises ... shameful.
  7. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    I am delighted with both the UK and Austrian results but only one of us might possibly (?) consider voting for a party that doesn't accept the majority vote.
  8. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    Well, this has already been run twice in a short time frame because of supposed irregularities in the first vote. I'm sure if they get on the blower to Lib Dem HQ they could come up with a reason.
  9. JC Footy Genius

    Italian Constitutional Election - Dec 4th. Potentially another BREXIT/Trump moment?

    At the moment it looks like the far right in Austria have fully accepted the referendum result and the democratically expressed will of the majority. Interesting to see if they eventually call for yet another referendum.. or say the other sides voters didn't know what they were voting for .. or...
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