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  1. HovaGirl

    Something For Nothing!

    No, it was our parents' generation. The movers and shakers of the 1960s (my parents' generation) turned society upside down in their quest for modernisation. They'd been through a war as children, and were enjoying the good times of the 60s, both socially and politically. They decided there...
  2. HovaGirl

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    How can my post be spin when it's a simple statement of unpalatable and unbelievable fact. Britain is broke, has been for decades, and successive Governments have had to borrow more and more money just to pay State commitments. How can that be spin?
  3. HovaGirl

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    No, I didn't say that. There are people who have been temporarily unemployed but have found work later. There are people who have never been unemployed. These two groups have paid SOMETHING into the NI system. Then there are SOME (not all, or most, but SOME), who have never been employed and...
  4. HovaGirl

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    Absolutely. And (D) has become a Lifestyle Choice, which everyone has to pay for except those who make that choice.
  5. HovaGirl

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    I don't see what comparison that is with people who have paid their NI specifically for their State Pension. Even life-time unemployed people get a State Pension, even if they have not paid NI. For older people, particularly women, to get back into work in their 40s to 60s is nigh-on...
  6. HovaGirl

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    Successive Governments, Labour and Conservative, have been "tackling unemployment" for 40 years, and little has changed. Jobs have been created, courses leading to jobs have been created, and all sorts of other measures have been taken to reduce unemployment, either by disguising the figures or...
  7. HovaGirl

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    No, because they spent the last 50 paying their National Insurance to fund their pension. Trouble is, successive Governments have raided those funds to fund State Spending, which includes the Welfare State, State Pensions, benefits payments, plus repaying national debt. But it isn't enough. The...
  8. HovaGirl

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    True. This is a very Left-wing forum!
  9. HovaGirl

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    Because the papers or opposition spin-doctors will trash them. Hence, we only have the dregs of political society, these days.
  10. HovaGirl

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    Me too.
  11. HovaGirl

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    No, Labour does that.
  12. HovaGirl

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    No, not tabloid-fed junk, but degree-level study of politics in a former life. As to this particular graph, it shows that, since they came to power, the national debt has increased under the Coalition more than it did under Labour, but this chart alone does not tell the whole story. Labour...
  13. HovaGirl

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    No, that's just Labour propaganda to make you think only they care about the poor. They want you to vote for them, which, in Milliband's case, means to vote for the Unions. Most people, rich or poor, do not belong to a Trades Union.
  14. HovaGirl

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    What a load of cliches. Most Conservative supporters are poor, just like Labour ones. Only a fraction of Conservatives are rich, just like Labour ones. And, there are just as many rich Labour politicians as there are rich Conservative ones. Labour doesn't care about the poor any more than the...
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