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  1. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    There is data to show that the past Liberal/Tory and Tory Government have spent more than all the post war Labour Governments. But yes their is probably more to it than just two big figures. For example the first Blair government had a very small deficit but the Brown government bailed out the...
  2. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    You are discussing a different point to mine. All governments spend a lot of money and borrow a lot of money, its what makes its country function, keeps its citizens safe. We live in the western world all in liberal open society's, its what allows you to post whatever you want online. I am...
  3. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/sep/27/government-hid-details-of-northern-powerhouse-minister-james-wharton-visits-to-the-north £40,000 like this, just wasted doesn't even register in such massive figures. In fact the government last year only payed £9 billion into the EU fund, out of...
  4. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    It's all public money so quite easy to find the breakdowns. Last year figures show the goverment borrowed £40 billion odd pounds to pay for all the shortfall in outgoings. All governments need to borrow to pay for stuff and keep everything running before they get in taxes income etc. It is...
  5. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    It's the fighting and death bits, especially when linked to women and left politicians that's truly disturbing. Hopefully the country has had enough of that terrorism. So no fighting or death on my behalf thanks.
  6. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    Well lets hope we get a change of government and in future the country can pay to train teachers and not the individual. Perhaps if some people are happy with the debt they can opt to pay and we can train even more.
  7. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    Its sad we still need in your view 'angry feminists' due to views like these. I find it amazing Albion a club saved by such a wide variety of fans, has fans posting stuff like this.
  8. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    No I wondered about what the media had to do with it. It is adopted and a few on here would fall foul of it if it was adopted as law.
  9. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    I don't understand why their adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance terms is the media fault.
  10. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    Okay then - I think that's known as the all mouth no trouser model Visual with little substance, I'll give you a shout when I am next verbally abused. I am sure you will get it all resolved for me.
  11. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    So what model do you favor, I think even the model that Labour are adapting could criminalise the original posters comments.
  12. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    On certain parts of us (not Scotland, Wales, Yorkshire, Kent) above what a government already spends on us. Like you I am not bemoaning spending money on the areas that need it.
  13. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    Well she believed, she would have a 100 seat majority. We will have to see if that one manifests again after the next election. Luckily she could spend a lot of the governments (our) money on Northern Ireland :D.
  14. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    Do you think that the adoption of the International Holocaust Remembrance Alliance rules were not enough. Do you think the government perhaps should also adopt these in law or do you think we need even more stringent measures.
  15. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    Nor is Teresa May, but somehow she is in control of a country and a party (albeit it with a membership a fraction of Labour's membership).
  16. Horton's halftime iceberg

    [Politics] *** Labour Party Annual Conference, 23-25 September 2018, ACC Liverpool ***

    It's good to get a conference again where debates and votes actually count for something.
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