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Bringing him down in the penalty box after he “took the ball” seems careless to me. We’ll have to agree to disagree :smile:

Fair point about legitimate trips and sliding tackles. Thinking about this, and going back to the laws website, all of the following are actually permitted charges jumps at kicks or attempts to kick pushes strikes or attempts to strike (including head-butt) tackles or challenges trips or...

When I think of winning I don’t think of going into a tackle, largely missing the ball so I only get the faintest of touches, and then hooking the opponents foot. This does explain a lot about English footballing attitudes though.

He hooked his foot, that’s a trip to me and a “careless” one at that given he got so very little of the ball ….and daft given it was in the box. Emmanuel Petit made a good assessment, he said it was inexperience on Lamptey’s part as he didn’t need to tackle but use his body positioning. And we...

Obviously only if it’s a foul.

It’s obviously up to the ref to apply the rules and make calls on the subjective elements. Regarding your last paragraph I’m not sure what point you are trying to make. You’re not allowed to “trip” opponents, intentionally or not, and this is what Lamprey did.

Calling @Dr. No

But winning the ball has nothing to do with the laws on fouls and misconduct. It’s irrelevant. :shrug: That aside, what exactly do you mean by winning the ball though? Lamptey got the absolute faintest of touches, that wasn’t “winning” anything.

There’s nothing about “malice” in the laws either. The laws on trips seem clear to me and yes it’s down to the referee to apply them and in some cases make a subjective judgement.

The FA laws of the game are freely available on the internet. You need to look for penalty and direct free kick….all will then become clear. I also posted the relevant laws in an earlier post.

I would say 'no’.

This.

Is this a direct quote from Howard Webb? As the head of the PGMOL, or whatever they’re called, he would know that touching the ball has nothing to do with the decision. If it is a direct quote no wonder refereeing is such a mess.

This one is quite easy. Lampty tripped him in the penalty box therefore it’s a penalty. “A penalty kick is awarded if a player commits a direct free kick offence inside their penalty area” “1. Direct free kick A direct free kick is awarded if a player commits any of the following offences...