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I have often wondered how isolating it must be if you're a slightly smarter/adventerous footballer and cannot be arsed with popping a pig's head in someones locker or hilariously cutting up a colleagues pants.. Pat Nevin said that when he was on european duty he often took advantage to take off...

Oooooh. Stop. This post is making me drool :smile:

As an aside Grayson Perry wrote and presented a fantastic C4 3-part series looking into the class system in the UK. It was on a year of so ago but if you get a chance to see it make sure you do.

My best man raised the "issue" with me eating humous, olives and pitta bread on the train to an away game during his speech.

Is this the case? I admit I am puzzled as to why people will choose, say Fosters. And I have got involved in debate around this but I do not feel I am "happy to let others know that they are satisfied by drinking inferior alcohol." I'm disappointed you feel this way.

I do not believe you can seriously be considered posh for reading a book though. I took this to be a joke?

Personally I think you can do pretty much whatever you want without it affecting your class. As I have mentioned the theory I follow suggests class is more dictated by beliefs and values and you can hold onto these whilst engaging in lots of seemingly conflicting actions. It also breaks down...

The class theory which makes the most sense to me is discussed in The Road To Wigan Pier and specified in my previous post. My background, beliefs, values and traditions are all from a working class angle and these in Orwell's opinion and mine define me.

I'm 45 and I have been to the opera 3 times during this time. Once was in Prague as I was simply interested in going to see what it's like and also interested in seeing the inside of the building; I did not have a clue what was going on. The other two were the Damon Albarn operas. Hardly posh.

I like the George Orwell theory that your traditions, values and beliefs define your class/status. For what it is worth I have been the opera 3 times and no one would consider me posh; in fact I consider myself working class and am quite comfortable with this.