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Judging by the immaturity of this, I would question whether you are in fact old enough to drink.

A very pompous, arrogant post, and not the first time from you. Had you read said poster's responses, you might have seen that he is not above suggesting that folk have no idea what they are talking about, eloquently put, of course.

Yes, I has some idea, and I has seen this. It may well be true, but that is not the issue here. The point I was raising was whether you are genuinely interested in the truth, or simply having your bias corroborated. I have seen quite a few activists regarding this on the box, as I assume you...

I suggest that you read post 85 again; they are not your ideas -you begin quite explicitly with what we know . .

You want the truth? Do you really? I suspect that what you want is something that damages the Police and Government, afterall your earlier post was quite explicit as to the corruption in the Police, so you have already decided what the "truth" is . .

Which of course is why Amber Rudd took the decision she did -it is not about "justice" just political points scoring.

[/B] I wonder if you see the irony here -you have already decided what happened!

Did he ever shout loudly, irrespective? Of course he didn't until he saw his chance. All politicians do it, as you well know.

Listening to him shouting in the Commons yesterday at the Tory home secretary about a political stich-up, when his party had every opportunity to instigate yet another expensive enquiry, it is exactly what it is about, according to him, whether you like it or not. It is not about holding the...

[/B] I'll bet he was. If he is so strident about it, as he showed yesterday, why was he not board before? Why all this now, so long afterwards, and why did it take Hillsborough to start this up, some 30 years afterwards? As to your first para, of course it is hypocritical to shout at the Home...

I do see that you are trying to be fair, but the post confirms the idea of double standards.

If wrong-doing has taken place, then of course that would need to be exposed, but it is for me a difficult balance. I just wonder if spending out millions, with the usual time delays, resignations etc etc is really worth it. Doubtless some feel that it is, and others are simply using it for...

Ok, thanks. I don't doubt that this sort of thing goes on - see my other post about what organisations do.

Good Morning, Soulman, I would be a little careful in going to print about accusing others of lying . .It seems that this was certainly the case at Hillsborough, but has it been proven here? Yes, miners and their supporters will say that it happened, but then would their equally biased view be...

So when other simply hired thugs get stuck in, furthering a cause that you prefer, that is ok - usual double standards on this thread.

What a very weak argument - it is hardly either or, is it? Listening to his hypocrisy yesterday was quite unedifying, given that he had every chance himself.