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Of course that is the case, but how do we prove that they committed a crime over there? I might be wrong but is there a law which says that it is a crime to go overseas to join a terrorist organisation, or get involved in a war??

A slight misunderstanding. When I questioned why they turned their wrath on us, I meant the muslims in the Middle East, not the muslims from GB.

[/B] I imagine you are assuming that as yet they have not been responsible for any atrocities, and possibly that, as they are female, we give them the benefit of the doubt. At least I hope that is what you are thinking. If they have committed murder in Alan's name, then by this logic "Jihadi...

If they are extremely young, then it is likely that they will know and probably have experienced little of the Iraq war, and if Muslims are engaged in a civil war, then why should they turn their wrath on us? I am sure that you are right in that chaos creates extremists, but there is an element...

After having spent much of my working life in the pastoral side of education, I equate this situation with what I regularly faced. As ever the majority of kids were a pleasure to teach, backed up by caring families, who supported and appreciated our work. When you could get the parents of the...

I think we can thus agree that stats can be manipulated, but then we all knew that anyway!

I suppose this shows that you can do whatever you want with stats -you have now used them several times to "demonstrate" that the muslim community is far less of a threat than is perhaps widely thought. The question in the first para is vague -violence against whom? Would they report it to the...

Saying how many took part would certainly have put everything into context, but if a few thousand had been involved, then that might give us a clue. How could you say that their views do not reflect those of the muslim community as a whole? Or do you simply not want to believe the conclusion...

I can see what you mean to an extent -final para, I mean! Older folk can look back with more life experience and realise that what these girls are letting themselves in for, is probably not what they imagine their future life to be, even allowing for their conversion to and enthusiasm for...

[/B] says it all really. No one has said you are not allowed to voice opinions, as you well know. It is the manner of your posts.

With respect, I think you have misunderstood what I am getting at. If it was gloating in any way, then you would be quite right.

Absolutely nothing, but it shows you in your true light. When you want sympathy, you inform us and we rally round, and when not, you are quite happy to be provocative and quite unpleasant in your responses to those who take a different line.

Reading this and then seeing your provocative posts to others is rather sad. Not so long ago you chose to tell us of your double tragedies and quite rightly elicited much sympathy from many posts on here. It seems that you are now back to normal.

This comment is even more silly than your original. You could not possibly be in a position to make such a judgement about what the PM is doing, which, of course, is why you resort to such nonsense. No one doubts that the fate of the girls is uncertain, to put it mildly, but how you can then...

How do you know what is being done behind the scenes and what evidence do you have that he could not care less? Quite apart from the ridiculously sweeping statement of yours, if any PM got involved, then the publicity would be that shade greater and alert those trying to smuggle the girls into...

Hard to disagree with any of this. I too find it very hard to believe, though I suppose it is possible, that the families had absolutely no inkling that their daughters had been radicalised - there would surely have been some sign of changed behaviour over time, even allowing for teenagers...