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Actually I think we are in agreement about the first part - enfin (or, at the end of the day, as they say in France), the EU has all the cards, and can leave us to hard Brexit if they want and that's what we go for. Given that it is us who are concerned about the hoards streaming across our...

Very dissimilar I can assure you :lolol:

I just had a converstion with Mrs T to find out whether she thinks the Brexit vote we had means the UK is now legally committed to Brexit. Both of us understand that we are not legally committed to Brexit. However we both agree that Tory and Labour are both acting like we are legally compelled...

If the government can negociate a good Brexit then great. If they can't, I don't see how they can commit political suicide by taking us out. Given that it is quite clear that nobody IN CHARGE agrees about, or even has a clear view about what a good Brexit will look like, then I can't see how...