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MMMmmm . . . what politicians do ? . . . . I think it revolves around the vote (this is getting somewhat OT). If a government becomes a serial cock-about, they run the risk of being replaced, even by something that many might regard as high risk 'idealist'. You know what I'm talking about . ...

A terribly pejorative thread, but some interesting comment. Some surprising (but actually not surprising, having chatted to the bloke on many occasions) 'leftish' suggestions from, well I won't embarrass him :bigwave::thumbsup: I find that I am perhaps more 'rightish' on this issue. As stated...