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I’ve found the analysis, extracts from bbc website below. It’s from 2014, Which country has the highest tax rate? As they say it’s extremely difficult to unpick given the complexity. Tax rates do vary dramatically depending on which country you live in. The accountancy firm...

We got into this debate in some detail during the last election and you acknowledged the analysis. But I have no access to it now to check through

The NHS is a political minefield, I agree. I love the NHS, don’t get me wrong, and am happy to contribute despite having company private health insurance, I have seen the benefits to individuals, families and communities. I do think though we cannot afford the costs as they increase going...

There are other options as the Germans show. At the last general election the bbc did an article that showed higher tax payers with kids pay more in tax here than in Germany, that’s before points above.

Interesting that those earning over a certain amount can stop paying into the public system and go private. Here you have to keep paying regardless.

I love the NHS, it is close to my heart for a few reasons, but it is wobbling under the strain of politicians dabbling and an ageing population. Getting back to it’s routes by focusing on those who can’t pay seems appropriate

What do you feel you have to preserve what was designed in the 1940s?

Yes, perhaps something along those lines as another approach.

I am knowledgeable of the tiered tax system. My proposal is that I would remove free at use for the NHS, that would only apply to those who can’t. That in my opinion is what a State should do, protect the most vulnerable. Those who can pay then don’t have free access to the NHS can chose...

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Exactly to my argument. When they can no longer afford it the NHS is there, as it shou,d be for all who can’t afford it. If you can you pay on useage, not through general taxation.

I understand but I am challenging that. funding of the NHS is like the funding of everything else the government does, through its taxation process, there is no ring fencing, NI doesn’t fund what the NHS requires. The tax rate of individuals is a policy decision of government. The NHS cannot...

Indeed

I know many very wealthy working people who use the NHS, and some who don’t. But the point is they can. NI is just another tax, its a pretence that is funds the NHS, it does not come close to it. In a world where we have an ageing population, we have cut off an easy stream of young...

At one extreme, Someone who never ever works and never pays taxes. It’s free. For taxpayers the government taxes as they wish and then distributes as they wish. Usually inefficiently.

It is free at point of use, mainly

Why does eg an investment banker need free medical support from the NHS?

There is a clear gap between what people expect from the NHS, the impact of an ageing population hit further by Brexit removing young immigrants and the ability if the gorpvernment to fund. Something has to change as it’s heading towards a real mess. For me something along the lines of those who...