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Missed hat but will check it out :cheers:

They were and are the Labour party. I love this Labour argument, anything that went wrong had nothing to do with them and if it did the tories would have done the same and anyway the last Labour government was really a tory one but they forgot to tell their voters so dupped them for 13 years...

That is one big fat cop out

Ah, another one along the lines its not to do with Labour. Thatcher started the deregulation of the city so its must be the tories fault that after 11 years of Labours governance over regulation that it all fell apart. I think brown and blair were toobusy infighting, woowing the city and...

I think you find they are way off austerity in the sense of greece and ireland. Scaremongering

This. Spot on

E you may be right

I see Eds written some pledges in stone. Haha cstrong economic foundation, controls on immigration blah blah blah

You say austerity. I would say slowly, very slowly, getting your house in order. Its hardly austerity lol. Look at Greece, Ireland and others. They have faced austerity. We continue to bloat ourselves with expectations and services we cant afford.

Once the crisis hit he did a good job in making sure we didnt fall over completely. I just wish he was as focused before the crisis rather than bickering with Blair. We cant credit where we are now to him though!

I think there is something in this. Perhaps we should just get rid of the whole lot of credits,benefits etc and replace it with a minimum income for all. And thats it. Stop pandering to the middle classes with all sort of give backs of their own money, lets look after the weakest and incentivise...