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Now you've done it. I had done the cold turkey bit and was fine but you produce this. What a great document

The premise you make is that you are right and a large section of the community are "idiots". Ha

Good point. Your vote was an educated one from an educated man. Anyone who voted for the conservatives didn't do any thinking and decided on one photo. Very insightful, thanks

Ah, yes,it was nirvana under Labour. "Twisted little minds". Very high brow, congrats. Long live the socialist "elite".

Doubt it, they would be begging to be part of the EU. The risk of course is that they are tied to german centric interest rate settings which means they would in this scenario go through some pain to cut back their deficit.

I thught the first part of the post was going to be about the protestors todwy

A Shhhhhh, you might upset a few on here. That is the issue for Labour though, do thry drift leftwards and come back to the centre left.

Brilliant. Deluded, but brilliant

Labour and Liberal combined? That is true. But yes it would change it and i am behind that regardless of how it falls, i think it has to be right that every vote counts

PR would make parties more focused i believe and would be closer to what at least i consider to be true democracy

Ive just read. Like you i dont accept that labour is a working mans party, that is the politics of 40 - 50- 60 years ago.

We have a new one on the other thread, "was labour too socialist or too centre left". last mess had zero, zich, nada to do with Labour. He has forgotten the public disagree with him.

Half way hrough mine. Getting better and better

Yep, i think Ernest is ok. He is abrubt but believes in what he says.

I have had a few bloody noses :)

Really? Not very gracious. I dont see much gloating but of course some will indulge,especially given some of the bile put forward earlier in the thread.

And to you too MS. I have a nice bottle of NZs finest Sauvignon Blanc. Hope you are relaxing too

331 now. Wow. This is amazing, the people have really spoken

I know, its very odd. We should have leaders who want to be the party for our whole community, we should not leave out those who cannot work, or indeed those who choose not to work.

Defensive for a season i expect