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  1. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Southern won't back down because they run the franchise and shouldn't have how they operate dictated to by a union who arn't responsible for running the service and have little or no interest in the companies future, only it's members. The union won't back down because they see it as a potential...
  2. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Because it is deemed safe to operate without the guards doing that role (which the unions claim the dispute is solely about.) We live in a modern world with things like cctv and other electronic systems which can be used to make sure that the doors are shut properly and that passengers arn't...
  3. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Society changes and things move forward, do you use a cash point / cash back from a business or do you always go into the bank to get your money out? Do you still write cheques or do you use bank cards / cash / other forms of electronic payment like paypal to pay for things? Life moves on and...
  4. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Good article on the subject here and worth reading in full: http://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/southern-rail-strike-who-is-striking-who-will-it-effect-and-what-does-it-mean-for-the-future-of-a7177716.html Some key parts are taken from the article and are below: So only 3 out...
  5. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Why can't staff based on the platform signal to the driver it's safe to now close the doors rather than the conductor waiting for this signal and closing the doors? - pretty sure there is something similar is in operation at many locations already (staff on platform hold up a lollypop type thing...
  6. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    How hard is it to go to the Doctors and get signed off for a significant amount of time with something like stress or depression?
  7. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    So they should employ more staff, mainly cheap labour recruited from abroad (or at least before Brexit) and hit their current employees pay packets as they lose any chance to make extra money through overtime? As staff go sick to cause disruption, someone has to do more hours to cover this...
  8. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Union led work to rule (refuse all overtime) and also members trying to be disruptive as possible by taking sick leave, etc. How does an employer plan for something if they have no idea who will be available and how many trains they can run tomorrow? - Who claimed that someone who was off...
  9. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Care to elaborate why? If the union said it's not about passenger safety but concerns our members may lose their jobs, do you think that the passengers of that franchise will blame the operators for the disruption because they want to implement a dangerous working system (as the unions claim)...
  10. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    Other operators have the system that Southern are looking to adopt as a new way of working, which they see as a system that is more up to date than the current system that is in place and has been seen to be one that works and is safe to use. Prove to me that it is unsafe and this isn't just...
  11. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    If the unions were to say that, would they have the same levels of support from the passengers that use Southern who are the one's being directly affected by this union action? or would the passengers be more likely to be siding with the train operator instead? - Saying it's about safety is...
  12. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    It's Sorthern's fault for not backing down and giving into the Union's demands for things to stay unchanged? How would anything ever change or improve if the Union's power was such that they could dictate how companies work and prevent them running things in the way that they see fit. Who...
  13. Guy Fawkes

    Passenger protest against Southern Trains

    It seems like the union's causing a lot of the commuter problems to me too, a bit like the doctors strikes which they claimed were about patient safety but really about money. This seems similar to me, they want to stop changes / modernisation by the rail operator because they are worried...
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