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No, I don't know yet. All I'm saying is that we shouldn't throw him under the bus because of his record at Boro.

The comparison I'm picking up on is that with England we seem to always think someone should have "top 6" pedigree. I can't remember Low's "reasonable managerial success at club level" so I'll look it up, in case I missed a Bayer Leverkusen in there somewhere. 1994–1995 FC Frauenfeld 1996–1998...

I think we've seen things move in different circles with club and international management. The most successful International managers of the last decade are Del Bosque and Low, but I don't see the big clubs with all of their riches offering massive contracts to either of them to try and lure...

I think you need to get past that record. It was NINE YEARS ago, that he was at Middlesbrough. Do you just dismiss the possibility that someone can improve at their job over time?