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Yep, they were annoying under Howe as he somehow sprinkled his magic dust and got penalties from outside the area and penalties front the cleanest tackles one could hope for, and they always spawned a win against us. But a rival? Nah, don't care one iota.

You're right, different times. I don't miss the violence and lots of things have improved, but I miss the 70's when health and safety wasn't invented lol.

Yes, I haven't seen that footage for decades but I clearly remember someone falling. I always wondered if they suffered bad injuries as a result. At that time man u were some of the worst.

The Carrow road incident, is that where they climbed onto the stand roof?

I was never a hooligan but I've been in Hove station against palace and there was fighting and police horses all over the place. Maybe '83-'87 sort of time? I appreciate that was after the stuff you mention though.

Not if they were deleted.