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:thumbsup: only for salespeople, mind!

You weren't that pissed at that point in the evening then? :wink: :smile:

Addendum... On the specific point we're discussing, a person of some possible relevance says: "Honestly, I don't think there is a lot of difference between leading a company and leading a football team, not from the leadership perspective. The context is different but the principles the...

Best example of “it’s just a coincidence” I’ve seen! And maybe it is.

You know the answer to that! I would counter with “Are you saying that all would be sweetness and light if the players didn’t have agents”? What the sales staff did have was “our competitor has just offered me 3x my income - they tapped me up - what are you going to do about that?”, and “I...

On your first point, it sounds very similar to the culture in sales-driven, US tech product companies, of which I have run four. In all of them the top sales people (who were generally the same people year after year - until they burnt out, or the Colombian marching powder did for them) all...

They certainly do. And it’s definitely true that by not mentioning Chris by name (a decision that would have had the tacit agreement of others - most likely PB - since there’s no way the club would allow Ashworth to issue a Press Release without approval), Ashworth was avoiding “setting himself...

Put yourself in the shoes of Chris at the time of that quote. A new senior man comes in; parts of his job description are made public - those parts relate to recruitment and not management; and the first words out of his mouth are those. And that’s not going to piss you off? Not referred to by...

Your last paragraph is, as you and a few others obviously know, what I’m suggesting may have been a contributory factor at the club. Having been on the receiving end of new senior people with opinions coming into a management team on multiple occasions, and having made the decision to do it on...

I'm suggesting that prior to Ashworth joining, three people were covering the first team football-related tasks: Barber, Winstanley, and Hughton (with TB having final say, obvs). After his appointment, the number of people involved in those same tasks increased to four. This increase in the...

Or - as I posted in response to the Telegraph piece above, that it's not relevant to my suggestion. I never suggested that Ashworth actively tried to get Hughton fired; rather that his presence destabilised him and negatively affected his and thus the team's performances.

:smile: yep. It's one thing a fan positing a possibility; it's quite another a person who may have actual factual knowledge confirming or denying! Are you planning to post on NSC mid-long term now? Or will you transfer your allegiance to Chris' new club (when that happens)? I, for one, would...

What an excellent piece. Thanks for the link. "Ashworth will need a stellar summer of buying and selling players if Hughton’s replacement is to stand any chance of making it a survival hat-trick."...

Nope. An observation that it is hard to fire someone who has "over performed", not an opinion that he should or shouldn't be. You also missed the bit where I said "The scary thing is...". I know I haven't offered an opinion on whether or not he should go because I was so bloody torn on it...

Turn them off then. Or put me on ignore.

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So you've said. Why not read a different one then?

If you care to check, you'll see that I have never offered an opinion about whether Chris should stay or leave. Not once. Your premise, that I'm a happy clapper, is "garbage".

Our PPG in the period between the announcement of his appointment and his actual arrival dropped marginally (but not statistically significantly) from the average of the six games of this season that preceded the announcement - that's why I didn't cite the appointment date. What could he have...

I'm not sure how I've totally contradicted myself. Please tell me how? What's the thread about? Positing an idea that Ashworth's appointment has in some direct way contributed to Chris' dismissal - some agree with that idea. Some don't. :shrug: