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It was in responce to a previous post stating that the roads were manufactured for cycles prior to cars being manufactured

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Thank you for the concise history lesson LB :) glad to see your back on form :thumbsup: can you agree there were not made for cycles ! :laugh:

So where did the road tax money go before it was abolished? , I agree the basic cinder path type track/path road were for farmers, traders and local residents etc , but then cars & tarmac came along which the original road tax funded. Most importantly they were not constructed for cycles.

But they really were. Although road tax has been abolished, prior to this, as in the infrastructure. that money did really pay for them. How do cyclist "directly" contribute? rather than like all of us in council tax etc?

Ha ha ha :) If want to stay with the front runners put in the hours.

Because its inconsiderate, anti social. dangerous and illegal. There's four reasons.

If a car or van was to jump a red light and hit another vehicle that had gone through a green light.(albeit a car van lorry cyclist) they would not generally get hurt at the relative slow speed. If they hit the cyclist then the cyclist would more likely get hurt, same goes if the cyclist jumps...

Im not getting your grievance. what do you mean? My point is if a car or van gets hit at a relative slow speed say 20 mph the occupant of the van/car is most like to be uninjured, but if a cyclist was hit at 20mph there are more likely to sustain an injury.

Im not getting your grievance. what do you mean? My point is if a car or van gets hit at a relative slow speed say 20 mph the occupant of the van/car is most like to be uninjured, but if a cyclist was hit at 20mph there are more likely to sustain an injury

Think you missed the point, cars and van can look after themselves, i'm concerned about the vulnerability of the cyclist with no protection.

Why? a car or van has metal box protection from traffic that has right of way if hit, a cyclist has none, i'm more worried about the cyclist.

why can't they be big enough to read ??? moped ones are readable.