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Bad news - slightly tempered by the ability now to think, 'I told you so!'

............or maybe they'll remember the Murphy, Stephens, Murray and Hemed appeals and consider us to be serial unsuccessful appealers and deem this appeal frivolous on those grounds!

Spot on!

I don't. Moan if you want to - I know some people believe that if they keep moaning about decisions they don't like - even moaning for years and years - things will change. But really, you know, futile moaning is not making a stand - it's just futile moaning.

Wow, that'll have the powers that be quaking in their boots. The decision went against us - no point moaning about it. To the rest of the world it will look like we were being whining bad losers anyway - and frankly, the rest of the world would be right.

Making pointless and hopeless appeals will change nothing - except maybe the length of the ban. The red card won't be rescinded; Propper will have to sit out three matches. End of.

You really believe that? Wow!

No we don't. And no it isn't - it is the club recognising it's completely pointless, and actually risks a longer suspension.

Absolutely no point at all; complete waste of time.