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Sounds like similar arguments could be used for zero hours contracts - they make it easier for dodgy (or small) companies too. I'm with proper (and successful) action by HMRC on this one. No reason for letting employers dodge their legal responsibilities; they might have to re-visit their...

Yes, so the sooner the HMRC do put a stop to employers forcing employees to go along with 'self-employed status' the better. Puzzled me as to why you wouldn't want them to succeed.

My comments were not about employees wanting to work as self-employed. What doesn't get enforced (and should) is employers employing people desperate for work on a 'self-employed basis' to avoid setting up PAYE and paying NI contributions.

This in spades, and with knobs on! Most of the time, they just don't bother, and give the employee a self-employment form to fill in.

There are very (well, fairly) clear rules on what is and what is not self-employment. Unfortunately there is little or no enforcement. One of my children had a job 'on a self-employed basis'; it clearly wasn't, and she wasn't happy about it. I took the case to both the DWP and HMRC. Both agreed...