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  1. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    Think that should be JC OR team rather than JC AND team. The only people he can at present pick his team from are the PLP, most of whom didn't want him anyway, most of them being post-Blairites. The only people in the PLP who'll play are those who were nowhere near the top echelons of the party...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    No, I think "Oh gawd, we can't even win a seat off Corbyn's Labour in a by election" would be a big blow to the Tories. Not that they wouldn't try to put a spin on it, of course.............
  3. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    That's the trouble. It isn't really, is it? They can vote for a candidate, certainly, but it will be a candidate who is standing for a party, so what they're really voting for is a package, the contents of which they have no control over really. Party 1 offers policies A, B and C. Hmm - I like...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    A UKIP success at Oldham would be an equal slap in the face for BOTH the main parties, make no bones about that. Clearly, the Blairite (Tory-Lite) Labour were not providing the Tories with any real opposition. How things work out with Labour with Corbyn as leader remains to be seen; he will not...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    That would be Howard Flight, from Magdalene College, Cambridge then, would it?!
  6. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    Funny that - The Sun suggesting a bloody nose for Labour if UKIP win Oldham. Of course, it won't be any sort of a bloody nose for the Tories if they can't win back a seat from Labour-in-disarray, will it? Or any sort of bloody nose for Cameron if the electorate suspect that his renegotiations...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    Yeh, sorry - went off on the wrong track there with the thinking they're brainwashed bit. But seriously question how much real influence Trade Union leaders have over their members now.
  8. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    Yeh right. "You guys". Still stereotyping, eh? Universal suffrage has a lot to answer for!
  9. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    And the members then vote in a secret ballot, which the Union leaders have no idea who voted for who. How much notice do you think the members take? Well, OK, fair enough, you probably think they're all brainwashed, but you'd be surprised, I'm sure, at how many Union members don't do as they're...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    So, come on then. Tell us all. Just how are conservative candidates more democratically selected? Giving equal value to all candidates - as in "either Eton or Harrow, or Oxford or Cambridge, will do" - is not necessarily democracy!
  11. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    As it's not happening, no, it isn't.
  12. GT49er

    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    Fair comments......... Local constituency voters generally don't know (or care) exactly where on the political spectrum their candidate stands. If you're Tory, a pig with a blue rosette will do, if you're Labour, a pig with a red one. Doubt if many (if any) of the Labour voters in Corbyn's...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    'cking hell, what a 'nker! Where do we start to explain, in language of the simplicity of 'Janet and John'? Let's make it simple. It wasn't Jeremy Corbyn's Labour party that was defeated at the general election. It was the Labour party (if you can call it that; it has been described on here...
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    Afraid that would be rather a waste of time and effort.
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    CORBYN, McDONNELL AND LIVINGSTONE.

    "Predicted by NSC commentators with half a brain." Well, got that bit right anyway...........
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