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That's probably true. I'm not saying we'll still be up there in December, just that I am pleased where we are now. I am generally an optimist re the Albion but I don't expect us to be top two this season. The funny thing is I'd never noticed your pessimism on here until this pre season.

It's hardly rampant positivity. It's fair enough to say that we are holding on in games too much at the moment and we're not scoring enough goals from other positions. It's the fact that we're second and there's nothing positive in your post that I found odd. Surely, as you were quite negative...

I find it very odd how negative you feel the need to be. We are second in the league yet you seem to focus on the negatives re spread of goals, the narrow margins of victory and getting through until January. We are unbeaten in eight games (having won six of them), are second in the league...

Agreed. That's where I feel we have improved this year. Last season I think Kayal missed three games and we didn't win any of them. This season we've missed him for the last five games and got 11 points. That would have been unimaginable last season, especially as Stephens only started one of...