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    Exclusion of a fan following incident at Brighton v Crystal Palace 27/09/11 [Merged]

    drew TBH, I can't be arsed to try and bandy words with you. You clearly have an agenda all of your own and have decided for yourself what I'm trying to say - and I've got better things to do with my life.
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    Exclusion of a fan following incident at Brighton v Crystal Palace 27/09/11 [Merged]

    drew. Eh? So if all else fails resort to insults? Is that the way this board works? In your vehement defence against something that I'm not actually contending, you seem to be completely missing the point I am actually making. For instance, where did I ever mention anything about CCTV...
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    Exclusion of a fan following incident at Brighton v Crystal Palace 27/09/11 [Merged]

    Certainly have read the report, every word of it - including the part that says : This and other parts make it clear that the club didn't apply a temporary exclusion as you suggest - they applied an exclusion because they were happy with the level of evidence they believed they had, and didn't...
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    Exclusion of a fan following incident at Brighton v Crystal Palace 27/09/11 [Merged]

    Never mind the debates about who did/said what and whether they should have done or not. Surely the crucial issues are that the club is willing and able to take such draconian measures against a loyal fan (or indeed anyone!) purely on the basis of other people's say so and that they don't have...
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    Exclusion of a fan following incident at Brighton v Crystal Palace 27/09/11 [Merged]

    But throughout football there's the pervading attitude of "we know best, supporters are just a know-nothing rabble." Until this viewpoint of supporters as not having valid views and not knowing anything themselves then things won't really change.
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    Exclusion of a fan following incident at Brighton v Crystal Palace 27/09/11 [Merged]

    For me the most damning bit is : Quite amazing that action can be taken unilaterally against anyone without them even being given the right to a hearing or a chance to state their case! And an utterly arrogant attitude, too.
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