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  1. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    I've re-checked the Collins link and you are quite right in that case, I'll put me missing that down to the slightly wonky vision I still have after having had an emergency eye operation on New Year's Eve. I've already agreed that there is a debate about whether the term is offensive so I don't...
  2. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    NSC at it's finest! :lolol:
  3. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    Thank you for that considered response. I'm still mulling over the offensive aspect, though that is a more general philosophical question. Is a word offensive if the person who uses it doesn't know it has offensive connotations and doesn't use it to offend, if the other person in the...
  4. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    I'm not sure what point you are trying to make, the first two dictionaries I picked up in my house had the same definition without the offensive prefix. I assume the second Google link was Collins? That has two definitions, the American one does indeed say offensive, but the English one as...
  5. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    You absolutely did not answer my question.
  6. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    Okay, I'll leave it there as you seem to be getting the wrong impression. If you can't answer the question I asked, that is fine, I won't ask again.
  7. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    I was hoping for historical evidence as to why 'oriental' shouldn't have been listed as a noun rather than being presented with another dictionary definition where it is listed as a noun. The mistake continues to be perpetuated apparently.
  8. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    General avoidance more like. I am actually interested, so if you could point me in the direction of some reference material supporting your position that'd be much appreciated.
  9. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    I don't see the relevance of that, how you use language is always a choice. I am interested to hear why you think all the dictionary definitions of 'oriental' are wrong though, when this alleged mistake happened, and why it has been perpetuated.
  10. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    Well, that is a choice you are allowed to make.
  11. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    You'll presumably concede the use of language point now though, given the consensus of the various dictionary definitions?
  12. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    None that I have read have suggested that it is no longer used as a noun. There are online definitions that say it could be considered offensive or derogatory, but that mainly seems to be a North American definition. In all honesty this thread is the first time I have ever seen it suggested...
  13. Curious Orange

    [Misc] Bizarre visiting supporter today

    Right, I've taken some time out of my Saturday evening to check some dictionaries and can confirm that 'oriental' can be used as a noun referring to a native of East Asia.
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