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  1. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    That is a totally fallacious argument! If you taxed the 1,500 richest people in the world as you suggest all that is happening is that the £0.5 trillion is being handed over to governments to spend. You will have a hard time convincing me that amateur businessmen, (politicians), will use...
  2. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    As someone working at the sharp end how would you feel about legislation requiring supermarkets and producers to offer 'waste' food, (damaged packaging, best before dates etc), to food banks before they were allowed to send it to landfill? Would you be in favour of greater state support of such...
  3. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Likewise and that is why I support the idea of food banks. I would go so far as to suggest that the state should expand the number of these facilities - introducing legislation forcing producers and retailers to send their 'waste' goods to these food banks rather than to landfill.
  4. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Not the same thing - poor people totally dependent on the state for their income can be perfectly responsible parents - that doesn't mean they weren't irresponsible when starting a family knowing the state would have to financially support the children.
  5. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Most of the wealth owned by billionaires is not 'spendable' wealth but tied up in assets many of which provide employment for millions of people. How would you propose distributing those assets in such a way that the poorest would benefit whilst at the same time ensuring the employment...
  6. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    That would encourage the irresponsible and at the same time discourage the responsible having children. Is that what you really want? ???
  7. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Not the same scenario. Starting a family you know you are unable to support is irresponsible - the case you describe is unfortunate. The bottom line though is that in both cases the welfare of the children is the most important factor and the state does need to support them.
  8. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    As you say, this doesn't just apply on a country level, it equally applies within a population. Where there is no state support for the elderly then I accept your argument about children being the parents future providers - in the UK this simply is not the case and having a family larger than...
  9. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    In practice the opposite is the case - as income rises birth rates fall.
  10. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Immoral? No Irresponsible? - Yes
  11. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Why? I don't want to use the comparison to reduce assistance for those below the poverty line in the UK but to encourage greater help for those in genuine poverty not just below a theoretical 'poverty line'. From your link "The most commonly used threshold of low income is a household income...
  12. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    Ironic isn't it that the 'necessity' for food banks is called a disgrace and at the same time the vast majority of us waste food - 7.2 million tons of it from our homes every year - £12 billion pounds of it!
  13. Creaky

    More than a million have used UK food banks in the past year

    In 1981 the average wage was £7,000 - (£22,750) In 1981 unemployment stood at over 2.5 million Spending on welfare was £30 billion - (£97.5 billion) Equivalent 2013 figures in brackets In 2013 the figures were - Average wage - £26,500 Unemployment - 2,5 million Spending on welfare -...
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