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Ten points? TEN! I hope that's Windy Miller waving goodbye in your avatar, and not hello. :laugh:

I'm all for being an eternal optimist, just as long as it's tinged with a degree of realism.

I really do wish people would stop talking about this 'top ten dream' and start to be realistic. We just aren't one of the top ten sides in the country. Ever since we beat Arasenal at the beginning of the month, a lot of perople seem to think we are better than we really are. I repeat . . ...

You aren't one of those fans who is disappointed that we aren't going to qualify for Europe are you? This is our very first season in probably the toughest league in Europe. We need to keep our feet on the ground. Survival is all.

Good answer! exactly this. Let's not kid ourselves, at the beginning of the season we would have bitten anyone's hand off if we could have been guaranteed to finish 17th. This season is all about sheer survival for me, however many or few points it takes. Those extra few points that we need...