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I'm not saying it should be our barometer of success and certainly I'm far more interested in our own achievements than theirs, however you can't deny the atmosphere on here is at its best when we're winning and Palace are losing. That's the golden combo. Their failings give us something else...

I think things are a bit clouded by the fact that a) we were beaten quite a lot more comprehensively than most people expected today and b) the scum have had a surprisingly good season up in the Premier League. Let's put today down as a bit of a stinker, albeit at the hands of opposition we all...