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People keep talking about this guy being banned from going to Athens when, as far as I can see, he didn’t mention Athens in his message on Dogma. I'm sure he would have done if he had travel and accommodation booked. Second, a 5-match ban is actually pretty trivial when you consider people get...

Fair enough.

You keep saying, "I’m not saying it’s right" [to luzz beer]. Just to be clear, are you saying it’s wrong? You can’t quite bring yourself to state that. It’s not odd at all. You’re being too influenced by the word 'disciplinary'. This was obviously an internal meeting and clearly not an...

You’ve never heard of a plastic glass? Ok!

I’m a member of at least two organisations who say 'winter holiday' rather than use the word Christmas. I’m sure plenty of companies and organisations still say Christmas but a lot won’t.

What about answering the question you flannel — why would you be pissed off if you were showered in beer, or hit by a plastic 'glass' of beer?

I didn’t say racism, I said borderline racism.

Losing my licence for life would be absurdly disproportionate for parking on a double yellow or driving at 75 on a motorway. Serving a temporary 5-game ban for throwing a plastic glass of beer in a football stadium is not disproportionate IMO. What’s your point? Zero tolerance refers to attitude...

I’ve no problem with drinking in general. Having a few beers works wonders for loosening the vocal cords before a game. But I think it’s pitiful to see someone staggering up the road, totally incapable and out of control. That’s a lack of self-respect, not to mention a massive waste of money...

I do sometimes. And if I get punished for it, I’d have no complaints. Throwing any physical object in a football stadium is a complete no-no.

Celebrate goals like you celebrate them in England. You don’t just sit there and clap politely in this country. Why the need to behave so unpleasantly in other countries? It’s arrogance and borderline racism. "It’s a foreign country, we can do whatever we want." That’s the attitude.

- Why would you be pissed off at first? - Several people in this thread have described being hit, or with someone hit, by flying glasses of beer. In one case, blood was drawn. Why the f*** are you still excusing this pathetic, violent, antisocial behaviour? Get a grip.

No, stop! "It’s even worse somewhere else" is never a good argument. I think I’m right in saying you’re a young bloke in your 20s, and I do understand where you’re coming from if you're thinking of it in the context of a bunch of young lads together ‘aving a right larf and chucking beer over...

And yet drinking beer in your seat without throwing it up in the air is commonplace across Europe. 'Just goes to prove' something about the British abroad. (Some of us, anyway.)