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In that documentary a few years back he described the 'Armstrong train' as dripping with gravy to be mopped up (or similar). Appreciate its a common cliche, but added to your cycling predilection I put 2 and 2 together....and came up with..err...17! :moo:

Tell me this was inspired by David Walsh's comments about Lance Armstrong...please! :)

Who said anything about tinpot? It's about the PL line-up being underwhelming, and yes we'd be equally underwhelming to the neutral if we went up.

For me add in Everton. Any combination of fixtures involving any one or more of those clubs and who honestly cares beyond supporters of the clubs involved?