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People as diverse as Warren Buffet and Noam Chomsky disagree. Im sure they'll be relieved that NSC has declared it over. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Class_conflict

I agree, although I am of the left, I have consistently said in this thread, I dont believe what is happening is about left or right. I believe politics is realligning across the world and old ideas of left and right will no longer be useful. I know many people on the left who I have as little...

Ed Miliband was young, but believe me he wasnt percieved as left wing by anyone but the right and centre. Im not suggesting Corbyn will nominate a successor. That would be an anaethma to a democratic socialist. I'm suggesting that there will be a left wing grouping within the PLP, as there is at...

You sound so like what my sister says who is also a member in Hove. A couple of pointsthough. You are right that young people are being politically engaged from apathy whereas the left hadnt stopped being political. However a large number of the left whilst still political have been alienated...

I think the short answer to this is dependent upon what type of prime minister you want to see. If you wish to see a presidential type prime minister like thatcher or blair then no I dont believe that would suit his style. If you wish to see a prime minister that tries to lead by consensus like...

Indeed they did, and knowing a fair few of their members not one of them did. The SWP were the same. The core membership of both parties are more concerned with building their own tiny parties, than working constructively with the majority of the left, who tend to keep away from dogmatic...

The SWP had 5,000 members before they split last year. the Socialist Party (which is what Militant became) has 4000 members, even saying the remaining trotskyist parties have 3,500 between them that is 12.500. the labour party put on 200,000 members and suppoorters. Even assuming everyone of...

You really show how little you know of the history of the Labour party and its funding when you make this comment. The Labour party was founded by Trade unions in 1900 to be the political voice of the trade union movement. As a result of this its initial funding and even now more than 50% of its...

Funnily enough I dont think were in disagreement. Many poor people are not vulnerable and many vulnerable people are not poor. I also acknowledge there are those on the left, usually those who have no experience of poverty, who think that being poor prevents you from feeling joy, pleasure or...

You are of course correct, and we could have a discussion about the merits of using a measure of absolute or relative poverty. However the point I was making was there is a way to define poverty. I used the relative measure in part because that is easier to calculate a figure, to highlight my point.

I am sure no one will be surprised to hear I am both a republican and an internationalist. This has meant throughout my adult life I have refused to sing any national anthem. This has meant at times not singing either the british nor israeli national anthem and family weddings causing some...

Since I am someone who talks about the poor and vulnerable, let me explain firstly why I do and secondly how to establish who I am talking about. This is not an attempt to place people into boxes as good or bad, likeable or dislikeable, decent or indecent. In fact it precisely the opposite...

Youve got to admit they do have a point. :lolol::lolol:

Actually I honestly believe a bigger obstacle to Labour winning is not the tories austerity programme, which is an argument the left is well capable of winning, but our preference to argue with the left on political purity. than with the right on a political programme. I suspect you and I may...

Actually this is one of the key points that has to be understood by the left, JC has said that the battle doesnt end on 12th September but begins on 13th September. Only two things have been achieved by his victory. Firstly as has been pointed out, is a continuation of an awakening and...

Tories stop being hypocrites? Theres more chance of Jeremy Corbyn being PM

Strangely enough being called deluded by someone who who has no resonse to my arguments, but to call me deluded, makes me think I am right, builds my ego and makes me think they are very simple. But I guess thats why im also told im arrogant. I'm not, i just like seeing them froth at the mouth...

no I thought you were an idiot who has no counter to the political issues but instead will resort to personal abuse and dress it up as a joke. but then I'm just making a joke so before you respond, lighten up and get a sense of humour. :lolol::thumbsup:

This .... and this .... and mostly this. I was out yesterday on a demonstration in support of refugees. The demonstration was organised in 10 days, it had 50000 to 100000 people on it. The message had spread like wildfire through social media. Ive been on many demos in my life starting in...

I know!! I've had this strange feeling all day yesterday. When I thought about it, its the fear of the idea that I may have to fully join the Labour party and vote for them for the first time in 25 years!