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  1. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    The bottom half of my post which you've cut off in your quote tells you of a reason the Union may be speaking on one element of the issues only. Found a boozer. Have a great day mate.
  2. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    I'm saying it's not about wanting more more.. each case has a merit. In this case they are being offered 1.55% per year (4.65% covering 3 years). CPI is 1.2% RPI is 2.2 and RPI excluding Mortgages is 2.5%. You don't know of any string attached, you don't know of any productivity targets you...
  3. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    The company made 2bn didn't it? I'm sure the employees may feel they should be rewarded for hitting that kind of target. And a lot of the time unions are not allowed to disclose the 'strings attached' for legal reasons. Stringent laws mean that a dispute can be about 1 issue only and any other...
  4. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    I don't know the particular case and unless you know someone in it I suggest you don't either. 4.65% is 2.325% a year, slightly above inflation. But if you add in the year before the rises it's below. Do you know if the deal offered is also conditional on any changes in working practices or...
  5. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    You have no basis for saying that. If a company was struggling there may be agreeable temporary wage cuts or freezes. In my last job, I myself was union backed (as you put it) took a pay cut in year 1 and a pay freeze for 2 years after the financial crash in 2008. Employees only want to be kept...
  6. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    Remainer I shouldn't have to explain it, oh but I already did by my previous posts. As I said, if you don't understand that working toward a profit in a company derserves reward, or that wages need to try to keep up with costs of living for all our sakes, then you just won't ever get it. Edited...
  7. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    Lol!!!! Really?? Have you any idea how society works? Or how employees that help to bring in company profits are to be rewarded by their work? As an incentive to go again and keep working well. On the other hand, it really doesn't matter what anyone says to you, if that is what you believe.
  8. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    You are completely missing the point. You get a job, you might even enjoy the job and want to stay in it. You might even find one that enables you to start a family a life. But you have increasing costs, cost of living rises, inflation, you are finding yourself squeezed. Yet the company you work...
  9. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    Your verision of that is what? Millions more on the minimum wage?
  10. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    You won't be affected at all by the BA strikes. BA at Gatwick are not on strike. As for Swissport, I don't if it how you might be affected. I would maybe consider taking hand baggage only.
  11. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    This thread is about the Gatwick Swissport strike no? Are you flying from Gatwick or Heathrow? And where?
  12. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    Ban them you say? So that wages can be pushed down even further?
  13. Captain Sensible

    And yet ANOTHER strike ....

    This is a generic argument and not based on this exact case. Most unions are the employees themselves and they are simply managed under an umbrella of Unite or RMT. The disputes are between the company and its own workforce. When both sides fail to agree, that's when the larger Union umbrella...
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