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Spot on.

I do't buy this argument about cost being a factor in police officers not showing their ID. Surely something with velcro is all that is required. And it should be a disciplinary offence not to wear it visibly. No excuses - if you've been given powers by the state over and above the ordinary...

And you don't think that the police have influence in sentencing? I acknowledge that I was a bit lazy in saying it was the police when it's the whole legal system that treats all football fans as potential thugs and all convicted fans as scum of the earth. It's completely endemic.

Exactly - first offence, never been in trouble before and had a job and family. I'm not excusing his actions but a jail sentence for a first tilme offence is ridicuous. What purpose does it serve? Costs the taxpayer a fortune and ruins a life for a moment's stupidity. A 3 year ban, fine and...

Disproportionate sentencing, harassment and intimidation, inappropriate use of obscure laws, lack of accountability, onerous conditions put on travelling fans (kettling, collecting tickets from service stations, metal fences across roads), games at silly times on silly days, reduced numbers of...

Joking surely? I'm not saying Sussex are innocent but South Yorkshire and the Met are the low benchmarks in my opinion. I know I give them loads of grief but the way their police liaison officer treats the Palace Ultras is nothing short of harassment. He used to be at Charlton but is now banned...