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Yes, and my point is that Father Christmas is not just a 'modern translation'. Shall we leave it there? I'm sure we've both got better things to do.

Yes, I'm well aware of the person and the dates. My point is that you're wrong in saying that 'Father Christmas' is simply just a modern English translation of Santa Claus. It''s more complex than that, they have two separate evolutionary paths, even though today, in the modern mix of Christian...

It's not really a 'modern translation' (as you can trace references to him back to at least the 17th century) it's more a different character. For the English he embodies the 'spirit of Christmas' in physical form, as opposed to being a representation of an actual person. I've always looked on...

I agree. That's how my parents treated me and it's how I treated my own children. When they get older there's the whole other issue of how you deal with the fact that ' Father Christmas' isn't an actual single individual person (have you been lying to them all their lives?), but I think that's...