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No, he set the bait, which many have taken, including me. It was bait nevertheless and evidence that we'll always end up on the cyclists and not the drivers.

2. Is it not? It's not worth any discussion on the severity of the punishment on what could happen as a result of jumping a red light in a vehicle? No comment on this has to be stopped, that our driving habits need an overhaul? That fines for red lights, mobile phone use, drink driving etc. etc...

Really. What was your first post hans, about the danger and punishment of a driver running a red light, or straight onto cyclists? Have you even mentioned the actual crime the thread alludes to? Has anyone actually condemned the car driver running the red light, or any car drivers for that...

But you are stating they are!? They're obeying and breaking the same rules vehicle drivers do.... Only difference is drivers cause a gazillion more deaths and accidents than cyclists. Maybe we need to focus on the drivers a bit more? Or not, maybe you see a cyclist being a moron on their...

Exactly. Now that is weird when you consider the road injuries and death statistics.

From 2012 to 2016, 2,120 pedestrians were killed by a vehicle in Britain—0.8% of these involved a bicycle. You obviously know where to focus the attention for improved road safety to everyone using our roads or pavements. :thumbsup: I look forward to your many contributions to threads...

I'll tell you why cyclists in general are so defensive... The general irritation that pervades the media, social media toward cyclists leads to anger and aggression from drivers toward cyclists on the road. They take risks that could kill me. Some of the gaps drivers leave, overtaking when...

Joking aside, pedestrians staring at their phones with their ear pods in....danger to everyone! :lolol:

And you're seeing loads of cyclists doing over 20mph undertaking cars... They've not got a car behind with matching livery to their kit with a load of spare bikes on top have they? ???

Depends what you describe as steady, I would say anything below 20mph is slow moving under rule 160 - interpretation? Any traffic moving along steady 20mph or above, most of us lycra-clad morons will likely sit in behind and enjoy the slip stream. :thumbsup:

Passing traffic or filtering through traffic isn't illegal, whether inside or outside, it's actually in the Highway Code: Rule 160 states that road users should ‘be aware of other road users, especially cycles and motorcycles who may be filtering through the traffic’ and Rule 88, in relation to...

I watched a sci-fi film the other day where a car driver was automatically fined if they didn't indicate. If that is to be the future, a lot of the German manufacturers are going to actually have to start putting them in as standard.