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:lolol: Joking aside, I think safety with the number of games left is probably a better measure. If we are 17th but mathematically safe 3 games before the end of the season, I'd consider that progress to be honest.

Swansea v Stoke a draw all day long. We would have been safe, underwear on the other hand wouldn't have been.

I'm still quite intrigued because a month ago I thought that 35 would be enough.