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Hell of a post SB, puts some things I get stressed about into perspective, best wishes to you and the family, is Stat Jnr still getting out on the bike? Hope to see you round the ESL for Swans, I'm in the NS for tomorrow as the buggers wouldn't let me have my own seat*! *that isn't true as I...

Crikey, now posting links to homophobic fundamentalist christian right wing advocacy groups. You're not going to heaven, and neither are those lot. :nono:

You sound like an extremist. Religion based on fear.

I've not had what I could claim as input in the birth of my three. Conception yes, births not really.

That is a bit of a contradiction. Your so called liberal left are objecting to opinions that actually want to prevent people by law, being a parent for example. Which is more 1984 in reality, objecting to an opinion, or objecting to someone's freedom to do something like becoming a parent?

.....you haven't got a womb, where's the foetus going to gestate are you going to keep it in a box... :lolol: