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He actually gestures at the train!!!

Yes, if your car omits 100g/km or less Co2.

Seriously, the cycle lanes around Brighton and many towns are well used - but not extensive enough and fit for purpose for complusory use legislation - not a chance. They often mix with pedestrians, involve getting in and off the bike, disappear altogether. You make a cycling infrastructure...

No, you miss the point, its not the difference between calling it a tax or a duty, it's the difference between calling it a Road Tax or a Vehicle Emmisions Tax. Very different. A driver cannot say you don't pay road tax because neither does any vehicle emitting under 100g/km.

It should remain a choice. You said it 'busy roads', congested town centres, rising obesity, if only there was a simple solution to solve those things by encouraging people to do something and make it safer to do, easier to do. Not add more legislation. I wear a helmet, but bloodyhell, it ain't...

It's calling it 'road tax' that is incorrect, as if it's a tax to use the road. I don't think anyone is disputing it's a tax! :rolleyes:

You answered someone else not me.

Only if the bike is doing 10mph or less, which in the clip it's clearly going faster, so no overtaking while 2 solid lines.

My hypothesis would be that the van driver has dangerously squeezed passed other cyclists in the group and that there have been shouts from behind at the driver and some honking. This has caused the group to slow down a bit, but the lead cyclist has carried on at his pace which is why he is up...

He didn't he was clearly trying to pass while there is oncoming traffic with double lines on the road, the cyclist's position is the only thing that stops him attempting it. It is only because the oncoming traffic stops that he then overtakes, I think the white lines were completely irrelevant...

:lolol: yeah whatever, road tax, ved, highway code, I don't know, I've lost count of the number of things you've got wrong so far...

neilbard - getting a bit desperate now...no one is saying cyclists SHOULDN'T obey the Highway Code. No one is saying there are not proportionally equal numbers of idiots on bikes as there are in vehicles. You've been burned, I'd leave it at that...

Is that because there is no law about being a **** and only one of them tried to injure/harm the other?

All right, all right...so other than reducing motor vehicle journeys by people using their bikes, increasing health and fitness therefore reducing the burden on the NHS, using a vehicle that causes much less damage to our roads than motor vehicles, enabling those that cannot drive to get around...

Oh this is turning into a Monty Python sketch...

Tell me how much Vehicle Excise Duty an electric car pays? How much VED any vehicle emitting less than 100g/km pays? Then get back to me.

Are people seriously this dumb!?

WRONG. You can overtake ONLY if the bike you are overtaking is doing 10mph or less. Rule 129. Pretty clear the bikes on this footage are going faster than 10mph.

Chief inspector Ian Vincent, Cycle Task Force, said: "There is no specific Metropolitan police service guidance on cycle safety. We refer cyclists to the Highway Code and Transport for London's (TfL) cycling safely page, which recommends cyclists ride assertively, away from the gutter. If the...

VAN DRIVER SACKED Couple of things I would note: 1. The incident is clearly preceded by something before this footage. The rider is obviously with at least one other person, probably a group. The Van driver is already beeping his horn etc. before he gets to him, and has most likely been wound...